In this episode, the host John Siracusa had a remote chat with David Metz, Co-founder & CEO of Prizeout.  Prizeout is an ad-tech company that turns withdrawals into an engine for customer acquisition, retention, and loyalty..  From the inception of Prizeout to the pivot towards ad tech, David struggled trying to pivot towards a successful model. Well they did figure it out, hear that story now by listening to this interview